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Lost Hamster
Serenity and Hungarian Operational Team
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.18 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Lost Hamster on 18/10/2008 22:34:19
Edited by: Lost Hamster on 18/10/2008 22:31:20
As all my bug reports are filtered for the certificates I would like to write them here
// Please make this suggestion in an appropriate section of the forums. Thanks - Certamen
So here we go:
Definitive BUG:
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ID: 63989
The pre-requisite of the Industrial harvesting - BASIC is Resource harvester - ELITE - it should be basic.
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ID: 63988
The pre-requisite of the Mercoxit specialist BASIC is Resource harvester - ELITE - it should be basic.
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Re-designs:
ID: 63987
I would like to suggest a redesign of the Leadership certificates.
Especially the Armored warfare, Harvesting, Infromation Warfare, Sige, Skirmish warfare cert.
I think that the basic level have a high pre-requisite (lvl 5 skill)
I would decrease the pre-requisite to lvl 4.
For the standard I would suggest either the lvl5 skill or the specialist lvl 2 skill.
As the improved skill are missing I would create them with the attributes of the current standard levels.
I believe that this changes would improve the Leadership certificates.
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ID: 63990
I would like to suggest the change of the Elite - propulsion jammer certificate. I believe that a elite certificate should show that the player is capable of using a heavy interdictors warp distruption field generator.
To archive this the pre-requisite should contain: Graviton Physic lvl 4.
ps: I have additional 14 bug reports for certificate which are attached to defect. :)
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Lost Hamster
Serenity and Hungarian Operational Team
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.19 09:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Clansworth
Some certificate oddities:
I'm glad that you found this problems as well.
More to go:
Gallente business - executive commander - basic ID: 63718
To have a similar requisite with the other executive commander skills the correct pre-requisit should be:
from armored warfare lvl4 to -> repairs systems lvl4
Currently the Gallente business - executive commander had 2 warfare skill as pre-req.
Caldari military solider - basic ID: 63717
The Caldari military solider - basic needs to be changed so it will be on the same level as the other race solider:
pre-requisite should be:
missile lanucher operation lvl 4 -> lvl 5
standard missile lvl3 -> lvl4 or 5.
Industry Engineer - basic ID: 63716
This changes needs to be done to have all skill requirements on the same level
minmatar:
mass prod: lvl 3
industry lvl 5 -> lvl 3
laboratory op. lvl 3
gallente:
mass prod: lvl 3
industry lvl 4 -> lvl 3
laboratory op. lvl 3
caldari
mass prod: lvl 1 -> lvl 3
industry lvl 3
laboratory op. lvl 5 -> lvl 3
amar:
mass prod: lvl 3
industry lvl 3
laboratory op. lvl 3
minmatar business - executive commander - basic ID: 63715
The pre-requires needs to changed from skirmish warfare lvl 3 to lvl 4
This is needed to have them on the same level for all skirmish warfare certification.
Amarr industry prospector - basic ID: 63714
To get the certificate to the same level as all other prospector certificate:
Industry lvl 4 needs to be changed to lvl 3
ECM Operator - standard ID:63710
The pre-requisite needs some adjustment:
Electronic warfare lvl 5 > lvl 3 or 4
LVL4 is enough for all T2 devices so LVL 5 is not needed.
Passive shield tanking - basic ID: 63674
the pre-requisite for Passive shield tanking basic is wrong. Currently it requires Active shield tanking - standard. I think it should be the basic only.
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Lost Hamster
Serenity and Hungarian Operational Team
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.19 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Lost Hamster on 19/10/2008 09:53:15
Some more for the Business and Industry category:
Most of this suggestions are for re-balancing the certificates, but there are some bugs as well.
Here we go:
Production manager - basic
No description
pre-requisit should be changed from Production intern - elite to basic
Supply chain management lvl 3 remove completly
Advanced mass production lvl2 to mass production lvl2
Drug manufacturing lvl3 to lvl 1 ore remove it completly
Production manager - standard
No description
pre-requisit should be changed from
Drug manufacturing lvl5 to lvl 3 or remove it completly
Advanced mass production lvl2 to mass production lvl5
Supply chain management lvl 3 to lvl 2
Production manager - improved
No description
pre-requisit should be changed from
Advanced mass production lvl4 to lvl3
Supply chain management lvl 5 to lvl 4
Production manager - elite
No description
add as pre-requisit :
Supply chain management lvl 5
Business Tycoon - basic
No description
pre-requisit should be changed from Business Mogul elite to basic
Business Tycoon - standard
No description
pre-requisit should be changed from
Procurement lvl 4 to lvl 3
accounting lvl 5 to lvl 3
daytrading lvl 5 to lvl 3
Business Tycoon - improved
No description
pre-requisit should be changed from
Procurement lvl 5 to lvl 4
Margin trading lvl 5 to lvl 4
wholesale lvl 5 remove completly, as Trycoon lvl3 have wholesale lvl 5 as pre-requisite
And put there instead off:
daytrading lvl 4
Business Tycoon - elite
No description
Add as pre-requisite:
Procurement lvl 5
Margin trading lvl 5
daytrading lvl 5
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Lost Hamster
Serenity and Hungarian Operational Team
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.20 19:56:00 -
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Thanks Greyscale for looking into. :)
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Lost Hamster
Serenity and Hungarian Operational Team
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Lost Hamster on 23/10/2008 19:42:29
Edited by: Lost Hamster on 23/10/2008 19:41:51
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
I don't understand the logic behind changing the prereq to basic - can you explain why you think this is a good idea?
- I believe that a basic certificate should not depend on a elite certificate.
- And from the skill requirement: Business mogul elite requires:
Trade 5, Marketing 5, Broker relation 5.
But the skills which are required for Daytrading, Wholesale, Procurement don't requires this high level skills. The max what you need is Trade 4, marketing 2.
- I play usually with the market, and I never felt that I need trade lvl5, it's a to loooong skill to train it up. I'm better with a tycoon 4 that trade 5. And it's almost the same training time (trade takes longer).
- Broker relation is good, to reduce the fees, but only those will train to lvl5 who are really a trader, as that skill is a lvl2 skill, so with average skills 10+ days to train up.
If you believe basic is to low, then maybe try with Improved, Elite is a bit overkill for that basic certificate.
Standard could be good as well, but that requires only trade 2 not 4 what you really need for the pre-req.
Edit: It could be that this is my last post for a wile, My account is expiring today, and I don't know when will I have the IRL time to play again. I hope that I can meet with some of the Devs on the fanfest, maybe you will be there too, and we could continue the discussion there.   |
Lost Hamster
Serenity and Hungarian Operational Team
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale
I'll give you a beer token at Fanfest if you can find me 
Actually, will you be there at all?
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Lost Hamster
Serenity and Hungarian Operational Team
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.13 12:53:00 -
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Bug ID: 64796
Gallente Industry - Engineer - standard
This certificate is missing the ship part, what the other 3 certificate have.
That is the Gallente frigate lvl 3.
What is funny, that I reported this bug on the 05.11.2008, and no one have looked the bug report. 
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